Q:Do you guys know much about ZE: A...?
Baboya (바보야) - Honey G
the worst thing you can say to someone is ‘you’re too sensitive’ because that’s basically saying ‘you feel things more deeply and fully than i do and this inconveniences me because now i have to be more mindful of my own actions’
you’re not too sensitive, the world is just callous and stubborn. sensitivity doesn’t make you weak and callousness doesn’t make you strong.
Q:Wasn't there an Admin that went to one of the B.A.P concerts? Did she post a fan-account?
It was me ahaha, I did but I didn’t reblog it here~
I’ll reblog if you guys are interested >.<
Jackie Chan and Race
About the Jackie Chan post earlier, here is the quote from an interview he did while promoting the film “Chinese Zodiac” about the issue of Hollywood using black people as bad guys.
With a diverse number of locations comes a diverse cast, a casting decision that Chan owes to his many years of observation in the entertainment industry.
“I wanted to show the whole world that good guys and bad guys can be of any race,” Chan explains. He specifically mentions a band of pirates that shows up to sabotage one of JC’s missions. “If you notice, I cast a black guy, a Filipino guy, a Japanese guy, and so on. In Hollywood movies, the bad guys are always black. I always thought to myself, ‘Why are they always black?’ They’re not.”
- See more at: http://audreymagazine.com/jackie-chans-chinese-zodiac-premieres-in-the-u-s/#sthash.Kzkw2X0n.dpuf
i don’t believe that in one country it’s acceptable to be made fun of for being dark and only in another it’s not…i don’t consider teasing/microaggressions/literal verbal/emotional assaults to depend on the culture idk why people are reaching with their theories
Q:I think your bias V looks like naruto's Garaa
hahaha i can see what you mean XD
Q:What do you guys think of b2st?
i used to like them a lot actually, but a few things (mostly kikwang and doojoon’s actions) caused a general decline of interest. plus i didnt care for their last comeback too much so yea. i do like hyunseung and yoseob though.
I’d like to point something out concerning Admin Donte and the anon’s conversation (about Beakhyun and some fans worrying that he’s racist in addition to colorist) and shed light on something I’m absolutely certain so many Kpop fans don’t know or haven’t been made aware of (if conclusions and assumptions like this are any indication). I don’t pay much attention to Exo or Beakhyun but I thought this conversation would be an ideal one to refer back to when talking about this (though this isn’t the first time I have).
"Judging people based on the tone of their skin, even if they’re in the same race as you is colorist and if you’d insult someone in your same race for being dark, imagine how you might think of people outside of your race who are much darker than that person."
Actually, many would be surprised by this but often times it is the EXACT opposite when it comes to Koreans’ perceptions of darker/tan skin on people outside of their race. I should be as specific as possible here: Koreans will often treat darker Southeast Asians (and other East Asians) themselves, which, as we are all too often able to observe in Kpop is badly, but when it comes to actual Westerners or people from the west….it can be totally different.
I thought the conversation my two Korean roommates and I stumbled into about this one night would be a great way of demonstrating why this is.
The three of us were sitting around the dinner table one night just talking about anything and everything when my male roommate commented on how dark he was getting from his time spent on the Rugby team with an obvious look of disdain on his face. It was then when my other female roommate laughed and told him to be careful not to become like a Southeast Asian worker.
Now, I’ve become quite familiar with my two friends and roommates over time so I knew for a fact that they would never say such things just to be making a mean-spirited or offensive joke, as they are genuinely good, kind, and healthy minded people (otherwise I would not be living with them, let alone friends with them). That is the reason why I humorously joked, “Huh? Or maybe he could just look like a tan skinned American instead? Haha”
He replies, “Ah no….never”, all the while shaking his head. Slightly confused, I asked why he thought such a thing. My female roommate kindly explained to me something along the lines of, “Koreans look totally totally different with dark skin compared to Americans. It really doesn’t look the same…”
I ponder her answer and say, “Oooh, is that so..?” After she confirmed it, I questioned her further about this glaring difference in perception. Thinking back on all the things and groups I’ve observed in Kpop, I asked, “So…how about other Asians? Koreans see dark skin as….ugly on them too, right?”
Her response was a confident nod. “Especially Southeast Asians..whenever Koreans have darker skin we always compare the way it looks to Southeast Asians (workers). We really don’t want to look like that.”
What she’s referencing here is the fact that many Koreans will view the tan/darker skin of Southeast Asians in quite the negative light, believing that the quality of the color looks bad. This is a mentality that sparked at the appearance of Southeast Asians who came to Korea for work, hence the association of their darker tones with Southeast Asian workers in particular. Obviously, when Koreans tan they associate the way the color looks on them with that of the way they think it looks on a darker skinned Southeast Asian. As can be derived from above, the same seems to definitely apply for their perception of how it looks on other Northeast Asians as well. This wasn’t hard for me to wrap my mind around at all, as Kpop groups like Exo with its mix of Korean and Chinese members provides the perfect example of this perception and the comments that can result from it…
Continuing on, I brought the focus back onto Americans, asking “So the color seems…different on people in America compared to Asians?” The guy replies with a nod while she goes on to explain, “Ye, It totally looks different. We think the color looks so much better or healthy. That’s why when he tans (she points to our male roommate here), he can’t look like an American.”
I simply nodded, saddened, but glad to have confirmed for me what I had suspected for quite a while of many Koreans based on all of my observations of the different things and interactions that go on in Kpop. Thinking back on a few instances that immediately came to mind such as Youngjae’s making fun of another B.A.P member’s darker skin, but then being seen and heard telling a black girl he thought she was pretty at a fanmeet on one of the group’s trips to America (I’m pretty sure this was Youngjae, anyway) and even Key and what people could note as his obsession with BB Cream and pale skin contrasted with his calling Beyoncé beautiful in an interview as well as his exclamation that an onscreen fan who appeared to be black or mixed was “Soooo gorgeous” on Arirang’s After School live fan hangout (It did not seem or sound like he could be referring to anything else in that moment in such a way, anyway), I told them, “Yeah, I really think I understand.”
Granted, I don’t believe I will ever be able to view skin tones on the different people of the world in the same way that my roommates and many other Koreans do (and that’s most likely a good thing) and therefore won’t truly be able to understand why they perceive these things the way they do. This obvious difference in perception many Koreans have of darker skin on different types of foreigners will also never justify the fact that Koreans and other Asians still suffer every day from the blatant colorism and teasing associated with it. However, I did very much appreciate that this reality and perception of theirs was able to be confirmed for me by two people who’ve lived in Korea all their lives and therefore have been subjected to the culture and the mentalities and perceptions often present within it, two people who should be the very ones able to speak on and gleam insight into this matter with such obvious certainty as they had.
Hopefully, I won’t be the only one of us who has gained some knowledge and food for thought from this little discussion of ours.
Q:Our comments in the disqus need to be approved now?
They shouldn’t have to be, we’ll check it out.